david: they are all printing more cash in order to pump up the economy. if you believe that leads to bubbles like allen greenspan did, then this bubble is the bubble for all of these. >> is actually a bit better on revenue of 2.9 billion, they were expecting a loss of 46 cents per share. that cash on 2.3 billion, the launch of the blackberry can come 2013. >> i misspoke. the losses were not as bad as we expected. >> 2.3 billion in losses. david: okay. 2.2 billion is what is reported, so they have a little bit more about lead, they are growing a little bit, which is good news in terms of the cash on hand. how much is that cash burn and will eventually begin to catch up with her. the subscriber base was up about 2 million. i want to go back to tim if i can. when you look at research in motion and their attempts to claw back from the whole they were sinking into, did you think that you have any chance of doing it? >> you hit it on the head. it is really a question of can you get the next product out, can you get new, you know, if a product transition and get